Chasing the Drama Llama


I was reading through Dicle’s self-induced e-drama on her entry Glowing Like Angels last night, and couldn’t help but laugh. Not necessarily at the post itself — which in truth was pretty tame — but the resulting drama! Now, everyone knows I love to indulge so I got myself hooked right in there… I can’t believe how crap some of the retorts and replies are. In my day we actually made an effort on these things, coming up with creative insults and really getting into the nitty-gritty of why we were right and the respondee (responder?) was wrong. Instead, we’re left with:

Your a cold hearted bitch, die. I don’t see why your trying to put there sites on blast, hmm… maybe because there better than your’s? please… do us all a favor and kill your self :) Oh, you can make a snobby little reply. I really don’t care, I hope you get ran over by a car. LOL!

Anyone else twitching at the repeated abuse of your/you’re and there/their? The only actual insult I can pull from that is “snobby”. Oh noez, how harsh! I was accused of that just this week for calling Lana (see previous entry) a thief. It’s so lame, even a cry-baby would shrug it off.

The drama has also spilled onto the sites of those being called out in the entry, the hilarity being that my name was dragged into it before I’d even SEEN Dicle’s post. How’s that for having a reputation? A quote, from my old friend Kate:

If you honestly have a problem with celebrity images, please don’t be a douche by posting little jemjabella links on my comments “tehehehe”.

Aw. Obviously people who have the good sense to actually listen to what I’m saying are striking a nerve with poor little Kate. She then goes on to say:

How about taking it up with livejournal, a celebrity fansite or maybe

I’m sorry, you must have missed the part where people already did (source: 1, 2)

Celebrity image theft aside, it’s interesting to see Kate of all people calling those out who mock her publicly. Apparently we should all e-mail her privately. Funny, after posting the Pants Award last year that’s exactly what I did: I fixed her shitty dynamic includes code which had already caused her website to be hacked once. Quickly forgot that though, didn’t she? Was too busy playing ‘Miss Innocent’ to her visitors. At the end of the day Kate, if you can’t take the heat you should stay out of the kitchen. That’s a metaphor by the way, I’ll leave you to work it out.

The really sad thing is the amount of responses to the original post telling Dicle she doesn’t understand real web design. It’s sad, because I think these kids are saying this in all seriousness. They actually believe that cropping up a few PSDs of some stupid famous bitch [insert name here] constitutes “web design“! I’m not one to burst these little bubbles (who am I kidding?) but the words “celebrity pictures” and “web design” only go together in the real world if you’re actually designing a website FOR a celebrity. No web designer worth their salt would present a client with a mock-up featuring the kind of shit these kids call web design unless they were deliberately trying to get themselves fired.

Anyway, no e-drama would be complete without the fun bingo card (courtesy of Jordie). Let’s fill it in:

bingo card

Did I miss any?

Jem Turner +44(0)7521056376

52 comments so far

  1. Erin said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    Oh lord. Jem has smelled blood. :) It’s sad that I enjoy reading e-drama but it’s like a train wreck. You just have to watch. But those death threats? Ugh. That’s not even immature, it’s… stupid. Anyway, enjoy your lacerating. =)

  2. Ben said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 4:14 pm

    Oh how I love the bingo card :3 It is always amusing. I agree with Erin, got to love the e-drama.

  3. Grant Mc said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    Yea i did like the bingo card thing, i see so many douches’ out and about the tubes that would have got a full house! Not really sure what to reply but i thought i better let people know i do read but don’t comment as much any more!

  4. Vera said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 5:07 pm

    *glomps Jem* Yay drama! And you did the Bingo too :-) I’d have enjoyed dicle’s article a bit more had he/she proofread it: This girl(woman) [b]had[/b] once [b]did[/b] I haven’t read it all yet, but I just love how Gonny ( keeps “wrighting” by herself. Silly me thinking that wraith was a noun. Oh wait: it’s wright (which according to google is still a noun – I think in the end it should have actually been “[b]fright[/b]”: as in what Gonny should have felt upon looking at her spelling.

  5. Aisling said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 5:15 pm

    Ugh, I just read everything, and… *rolls eyes* The sad part is that this all started with a Gaussian Blur Overlay, which I’m pretty sure can’t be traced back to anyone other than the Photoshop designers themselves. I’ve been GBOing since the early 2000s, and while I remember tutorials from back then, it was because it was a popular thing to do. Now, it’s sort of run-of-the-mill, so if you don’t know how to do it, why would you at this point? Let it go. And the copyright images thing will go on and on until the end of time! Personally, I haven’t used copyright images on my blog since May of 2006, so I don’t really understand their appeal anymore (however I am guilty of using them on my wallpapers… oops).

  6. Belinda said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 6:39 pm

    I totally agree with what you said about many of the responses… it’s mind boggling how immature and over-the-top many of them were. The most mature one was the one on the 2nd page by the owner of, and I’m really impressed by the way she handled herself. As for the actual post by dicle, I have to admit, I don’t care for that kind of e-drama. It’s just too easy, and it seems to me too much of “e-drama is cool right??? Look at me, I’m with the cool kids! I’m writing half-hearted critiques of amateur website owners! PLEASE LIKE MEEE!!!” or something of the sort. Eh, not my cup of tea.

  7. Jem said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 6:49 pm

    The most mature one was the one on the 2nd page by the owner of, Heather is a really cool chick :D

  8. Tess said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 6:51 pm

    I’m Belinda, when I say I’m not too big on e-drama, but I had to comment on the post. They were “suffering” from hurt feelings, and decided to issue death threats at Dicle. Honestly, she was right in sense, although they were just tutorials. And I’ll be completely honest when I say I use celebrity images (well, model celebrity images) but I use them for my website, not for selling (supposedly) cheap layouts and I certainly don’t say they’re mine.

  9. Jordan said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 7:51 pm

    Tess — the point is not actually using photographs of that kind of subject (eg: models, celebs) but using a photography that specifically states that you are not allowed to use, reproduce, manipulate, etc. That’s the main problem here. It’s just so amusing to see how many people are so easily offended when their work method is questioned, and how quickly they’ll jump on the ship to try to offend the writer. I just saw this myself recently, with a hosting company that also offered design services. His design was awful, using tables, and whatnot. Tried to compensate by saying it takes too long to code that way, and that tables render properly all the time.. BUt!! that he was ADA compliant. LOLz. I broke it down to him, and apparently too hard because he deleted he thread. People are such pansies.

  10. Mumblies said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 8:44 pm

    Drama and bingo… No fair! You have all the fun Jem hehe :o)

  11. Kaylee said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 8:49 pm

    I can’t believe you didn’t actually get 5 in a line to win the bingo card :o

  12. Rilla said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    That’s sad. You didn’t complete any straight lines on the card. :/

  13. Lydia said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    I was just skimming over the comments on Dicle’s page, and honestly, I’m starting to get very irritated by how repetitive they are. “Ur site isnt even half as good as theirs so u should just stop this.” “OMGG you are just jealous b/c they get more hits than you.” “U have no life!!!” It really amazes me how they can take themselves so seriously, when they’re all spewing out the same crappy “insults” with the same crappy grammar.

  14. Mike Haddad said:
    On October 17, 2007 at 11:36 pm

    The bingo card was AMAZING.

  15. Kelly said:
    On October 18, 2007 at 3:11 am

    That bingo card is a classic. :) Just read through the entry in question, and the resulting drama, and couldn’t stop a little tear of laughter at some of the worst “come backs” I’ve ever seen. I wish I could just say to them, “Listen, kiddies: I went to an all girls’ comprehensive high school in a rough town – what you’re saying as a ‘come back’ doesn’t even scratch the bloody surface.” and then REALLY watch the fun begin… or maybe I’ll just stay out of it and laugh. A lot.

  16. Xuan said:
    On October 18, 2007 at 7:06 am

    “Wow, do you hate everything?” Heh. I like that bingo card, it’s nifty. Life is never complete without a good dose of e-drama. *thumbs up*

  17. Jordie said:
    On October 18, 2007 at 7:18 am

    I suppose “You’re a cold-hearted bitch” fits under “That’s so mean”? Also: I get your point that it’s totally unnecessary to have so many tutorials on the same thing, but you don’t have to be so condescending about it. And there’s a rather strong current of “You’re so immature!” running through the comments thread… besides, why in the world are you trying to stir up INTERNET/WEBSITE drama. thats just fucking retarded. And I can’t believe you missed “It’s the way he/she said it!” — I’m not bitching about the fact my site got “reviewed”, but about the fact she’s calling me a stealer. That’s all! I can handle people who don’t like my site, but not those who call me a stealer. Welcome to Butthurt! Population: that idiot. I’ve also detected some “Thanks for the hits!”, although I’ll leave it up to you to decide whether or not this one’s a hit or a miss… Thanks for all the great new sites man! Not only am I not going to visit this one anymore (because you have shit all going on here..) but you gave me some great new design sites while ‘attempting’ to put them down! So there you go. Sometimes you need to interpret their comments a little differently to make them fit, but they ARE there! I could always make another card, though, if we run into any new ones. Perhaps I should include “I have more minions than you”, since I noticed that one a few times when browsing the thread…

  18. Aisling said:
    On October 18, 2007 at 2:24 pm

    I’m not bitching about the fact my site got “reviewed”, but about the fact she’s calling me a stealer. That’s all! I can handle people who don’t like my site, but not those who call me a stealer. I always think the word “stealer,” sounds made up. It’s not, but I think “thief,” sounds that much better.

  19. Carly said:
    On October 18, 2007 at 5:16 pm

    I rarher like the header of At0mic. So brushes on a photo isn’t a brilliant new and wonderful concept but it looks nice, and surely it’s not the headers people go to visit a site for, it’s the content…? I think for paint shop pro, I figured that same glow method out and wrote a tutorial about it, back in the day! I think Dicle’s page would read much better if it was proof read first, and better structured. I was a little confused by most of it and just had to get the gist, so to speak. I love the bingo, it’s a genius idea!

  20. Mari said:
    On October 18, 2007 at 10:57 pm

    I definitely noticed at least one “You’re fat and ugly”. You could add that to your card and have an almost bingo!

  21. Alyssa said:
    On October 19, 2007 at 1:09 am

    @The comments of Kate’s visitors regarding this matter: It baffles me, also. They don’t seem to realize the truth about celebrity images/stolen photography in general. I think you, Jem, have made it completely clear about the infringement, and yet teenybopper, celebrity image cropping people comeback with excuses like: that site is so PATHETIC! and Ignore that girl Kate. She just wants attention and she really needs a life. Yeah. :/ Sure, you may not come across as, “Hi. I advise you to remove your celebrity layout because you should be aware that it is copyright infringement. :3” Sometimes, being slightly harsh or critical is the only way to get into their thick skulls. They’ll realize one day how dumb they acted.

  22. Rachel said:
    On October 19, 2007 at 1:58 am

    Um…Anyone else notice she hocks on people about stealing and yet totally copied Jem’s idea of giving out awards to craptastic sites? Just a thought…

  23. Crystal said:
    On October 19, 2007 at 5:59 am

    Nothing to add except that I completely agree. Has these people ever done a contract job?! An investment company doesn’t want a half-nude celebrity picture with random brushes as their business header. A smudge in the name of web designing.

  24. Jessie said:
    On October 19, 2007 at 12:06 pm

    Yes… all I say is that if they want their point taken seriously, they shouldn’t resort to stupid comebacks. They may come off feeling smug and satisfied but they’re not doing themselves any favours. Everyone else just laughs at them.

  25. Dicle said:
    On October 19, 2007 at 4:03 pm

    Jem, I’m, in fact, offended by you calling my last weblog tame, after supporting me in both of your comments, but I respect your opinions like so many people. But the aim of my site is to entertain people and it seems to achieve the purpose for which it was created. @ Vera: As you can read my disclaimer “Hello” (on the sidebar) English isn’t my first language and people even make mistakes when writing in your own language. You maybe don’t like my usage of English but all I tried to do was write in a speaking manner. And in case you want to know, I’m a “she”.

  26. Jem said:
    On October 19, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    Jem, I’m, in fact, offended by you calling my last weblog tame Well, I was going to call it lame because there are so many other things you could have picked up on with some of those sites, but I guess it’s lucky I didn’t :p

  27. Casey said:
    On October 19, 2007 at 7:25 pm

    Your a very rude hypocrite. Seriously. site kicks your ‘Pants Award’ off. She has more visitors, layouts better, and she isn’t a *****!

  28. Jem said:
    On October 19, 2007 at 7:48 pm

    I’ve LOVE to see the evidence to back up your statements, Casey.

  29. Heather said:
    On October 19, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    Wow, Jem called me a “really cool chick”. If I wasn’t procrastinating my python programming homework, I’d feel guiltlessly happy right now. ;) I’d honestly forget I’d had that crappy tutorial still laying around, I think I had dragged that along from my site from over 5 years ago. Anyways, sorry for not causing more e-drama, but I think the other sites involved more than made up for my part.

  30. Jordan said:
    On October 20, 2007 at 1:24 am

    lol @ Casey’s layout.

  31. Megan said:
    On October 20, 2007 at 3:23 am

    Hmmm..interesting. Question: I’ve been hearing this a lot, but if you have ANY photo of ANY celebrity on your website then you could be called a stealer and get in trouble? ^^It seems to be what is said, everytime there is a single picture of a celebrity the next word is STOLEN! Is that question true?

  32. Vera said:
    On October 20, 2007 at 6:02 am

    @ Vera: As you can read my disclaimer “Hello” (on the sidebar) English isn’t my first language and people even make mistakes when writing in your own language. I didn’t read your sidebar, just the actual post. Incidentally, English is not my first language either: it’s my third one. So try a different sob story with me next time.

  33. Ilianna said:
    On October 20, 2007 at 8:39 am

    Jem’s doing a favor for them by pointing out what they need to fix in order to improve their site. Sure, she’s mocking them in the process, but in the end, they still benefit. In my opinion, I think any criticism (however harsh) is better than none. I mean, having legions of devoted admirers is nice, but they don’t do anything for you. It’s good to have a wake up call every now and then. I am always striving to improve on everything, and I don’t understand why other people don’t do the same, and use the pants award to their advantage. And I don’t see how it is any worse than ridiculing the latest Britney Spears fiasco, or gossiping about someone… everyone does that, so I guess we’re all incredibly juvenile, whether we’re giving pants awards or doing what normal people do, pointing out what’s wrong. Honestly, I think pants awards aren’t as bad since you’re telling the site owner straight to their face what’s wrong, where as if you gossip about some person, they’ll never know and benefit from your criticisms.

  34. Amber said:
    On October 20, 2007 at 10:30 am

    lol @ casey’s site selling graphics with a layout like that the lulz don’t stop

  35. Rachael said:
    On October 20, 2007 at 11:32 am

    @Casey – The number of visitors doesn’t define how good a site is. Also (and don’t take this the wrong way) your site is *not* “best viewed in FF2” because that’s what I’m using and your site ain’t pretty. And for the record, Jem’s not a *****.

  36. Carly said:
    On October 20, 2007 at 11:53 am

    I actually took a screencap of what casey’s layout looks like in my browser. But I couldn’t upload it….photobucket’s being silly… I cannot believe she tries to insult Jem’s layout… at least I can bloody read Jems content. Casey: try actually validating your coding and learn how to code so that EVERYONE can view it. Not just you, in your version of Internet Explorer. Yellow links on a yellow background = stupid. Amber – she actually sells layouts? What of…? Dodgy celebraties cut out and feathered in Paint Shop Pro and plonked on a plain pink background…will some rubbish CSS that doesn’t even work? Yay… I’ll spend my hard earned money on that.. sign me up! Lastly…The Css tutorial? That deserves a pants award alone.

  37. Brigitte said:
    On October 20, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    Happy to see your comment :3 I’m going to try to blog more and stop by more often. Also, the bingo card is so wonderful! I’m involved in very little e-drama, but next time, I’m so busting it out!

  38. Mumblies said:
    On October 20, 2007 at 6:33 pm

    I am wondering……… what on earth is a “*****!”? Could someone please tell me lol Jem may well be many things but i don’t recall her ever being a *****!

  39. Britney said:
    On October 20, 2007 at 7:38 pm

    This whole drama is ridiculous. Well, Kate’s reaction is ridiculous, I should say. She needs to remove the stick out of her ass. Dicle posted a blog? So what. No need for Kate to get her panties in a bunch. When you own a website like Kate (I don’t fancy it at all, but apparently many people do), you have to expect those kind of things and move on.

  40. Rachael said:
    On October 20, 2007 at 10:07 pm

    @Mumblies – I think ***** might be that word that starts with a ‘b’ and ends in ‘itch’, but I’m not entirely sure…

  41. Brookelinn said:
    On October 21, 2007 at 4:36 am

    bravo! lol gotta love the bingo card its so amusing of course =]. i think kate could have handled it much better than she did but oh well some people take things to seriously. much love, brookelinn

  42. Chantelle said:
    On October 21, 2007 at 9:22 am

    The entire thing was lame – forget “tame.” The post was lame. The resulting comments were lame. I can hardly believe how crap it all was. :( But, then again, I have a tendency to dislike e-drama.

  43. Carly said:
    On October 21, 2007 at 10:16 am

    ^ Mumbles, I think the word was ‘bitch.’

  44. Jem said:
    On October 21, 2007 at 11:43 am

    My mum knows what the word was, she was being sarcastic :P

  45. Carly said:
    On October 22, 2007 at 1:27 am

    Hey Jem, I have a fantastical site for you to award a pants award to…

  46. Casey said:
    On October 22, 2007 at 3:34 am

    Kate doesn’t say crap about people, and she’s NICE! And doesn’t tell me to shut the **** up over eMail!

  47. Ciara said:
    On October 22, 2007 at 4:42 am

    Casey, Jem is just speaking on the truth. No idea why you’re offended, especially since it isn’t your site she is referring to. Maybe it’s because your own site is horrid. Dude, you have background music going on and no option to stop it. And uhh, not sure why you have a do not steal notice on the bottom of your site, there is nothing remotely desirable about your site or any hint that you know what you’re doing (referring to your hosting and graphics selling LOL)

  48. Jem said:
    On October 22, 2007 at 8:18 am

    Now now, Casey. Making up lies about me isn’t going to make you any friends.

  49. Jem said:
    On October 22, 2007 at 11:33 am

    Ah, yes. Here we are.. what I *actually* said to Casey: LOL You have no fucking clue, do you? You might want to check your facts before making yourself look even more like an idiot. I don’t see where I told you to “shut the **** up”, but if it makes you feel better I can do it now?

  50. Carly said:
    On October 22, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    Jem, I was trying to be funny as Rachael had said it begins with ‘B’ and ends with ‘itch.’ Hehe… I wasn’t trying to point out the obvious…!

  51. Alex said:
    On October 29, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    internet drama is stupid

  52. Cher said:
    On January 7, 2008 at 9:57 am

    I think using the Gaussian Blur thing is just like everyone knowing how to make a blend. So it’s just like some tutorial saying on how to soften up skin and you just say they stole it?! I mean that’s just so useless. Even fonts on another site came from dafont or somewhere else and some site having the same one doesn’t mean stealing. So just stop saying things like this to people and act more like your age.